![]() Soon enough, battlefield realities made both designs obsolete when it was apparent that the 5cm cannon was inadequate for its task unless shooting expensive tungsten ammunition and Panther testing itself showed the base chassis was far from being mature, leading to a quiet termination. Following on that idea, competition arose, leading Rheinmetall to offer its own interpretation on the design about a month later, an artillery observation vehicle with similar specification called the Panzerbeobachtungswagen Panther.Äespite the bulkier design, it used the same 5cm cannon in a dummy barrel resembling the 7.5cm L/70, all in all being an equivalent design to M.A.N.'s recon tank. Apparently the small matter of tank size did not seem to bother him. ![]() This resulted in a somewhat lightened Panther that used the much smaller Leopard turret (related to the wheeled Puma design) and the soon to be inadequate 5cm K.W.K 39. Jumping on that, Speer said that the characteristics of the tank were so similar to the Panther that the latter could be used instead. ![]() ![]() After a rather lengthy debate, Hitler was finally persuaded to approve the lighter 21.9 ton design, while using many existing Panther components to ease production. MSPAFV-5A3 Trismegistus GreatHeartsEmpire 8 0 Scrapper Defense Tank GreatHeartsEmpire 6 0 MSRH-700A5 EULRA Vykas GreatHeartsEmpire 6 0 leopard 2 Ukrainian AbsurdBR 58 5 MTUH-HASAHT-278 MCAAT ARKE Konigstiger II GreatHeartsEmpire 6 0 Vervixi Automotive Skral (Future) Brijeka 38 3 Kodiac ZIRAOneNiner 56 2 MTUH-HASAHT-278 MCAAT ARKE Koenigstiger GreatHeartsEmpire 3 0 Minutemen M48 Patton / Mk 3 General Heavy Tank RangerSteel 21 7 Alvis/OMC FV260 series (AU) dave-llamaman 29 0 GKN FV510 Warrior IFV - Saxonverse AU dave-llamaman 24 0 Minutemen: MK1 Prescott Light Tank RangerSteel 15 3 Minutemen Tank: Adams Medium Tank RangerSteel 21 1 FV4035 Challenger 3 MBT - AU dave-llamaman 28 2 MSHTUH-HASAHT-5777A2 MCAAT ARKE Gunhild GreatHeartsEmpire 9 0 MHT-240A2 MMBT Parator Heavy Main Battle Tank GreatHeartsEmpire 12 0 MSHTUH-HASAHT-5777 MCAAT ARKE Gunhild GreatHeartsEmpire 7 0 Obusier de Campagne Motorise - SPFH90 BeignetBison 23 0 M.In 1942 Aufklärungspanzer Panther design was in debate between Hitler (who as always wanted a heavier, better armored design) and the Heer. ![]()
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